A question for those who know much, little or nothing at all about the Art and Science of shifting perspective

Many say: "it's all a matter of perspective". If this is true, then what are some of the ways you shift yours? If you want to see from a new perspective, do you climb to the top of a mountain or do you become the mountain. If you want to understand anothers point of view, do you need to physically put on their shoes and literally walk a mile in them? Would that even work? How do you know you're actually seeing from their perspective? Do you find yourself using their words or adopting their mannerisms, or do you pick up on their thoughts and feelings as if they were your own? Do you need to establish a connection first? How? If Daz Mazter and I were sitting across from each other and we physically traded places, would that allow us to trade perspectives? Do paradigms exist apart from us and anyone can adopt them, or do they exist only in our minds and someone has to 'get in our head' to see how we see?


Can we 'see' how a plant sees? A chair? What about an atom or a planet or a god?

A question for those who know much, little or nothing at all about the Art and Science of shifting perspective
I am the shifting cosmic perspective of all with-in.


I am the shifting cosmic perspective of all with-out.


I am the shifting cosmic perspective of all with-all.


Yet, I never seem to move...


Where am I now...


Who am I now...


Am I You...


Am I Me...


Am I...





I Am!





Presto... and I am back... What was the question?
Reply:Becoming more aware would be a necessary step in the right direction.
Reply:I think that in order for one to claim they have walked in someone's shoes, that person would have had to have the same experiences as the other person. Otherwise our "perspective" would only be a projection of our own experiences and biases.
Reply:A person'd perspective is their own, shaped by the conditions particular to each person, therefore you cannot shift your own perspective to that of another.





This is precisely why our consciousness and it's various conditions should be known, understood and changed. It is precisely because of these various conditions and preconceived perceptions which cause so much trouble and other's suffering, as well as our own.





How do you see from another's perspective...? You cannot do this. It is because of this inability, as well as the problems ascociated with the "self", that we must then understand our own consciousness.





Understanding this consciousness then allows us to understand and deal with our selfish nature. Another person's perspective in any experience is their own, our perspective is likewise our own, therefore the experience itself, it's nature of impermanence is the key to the truth of the experience. That truth then allows us to ascociate the feelings which come with the experience with that experience, rather than relying on our perceptions to misguide us or another's perceptions to likewise misguide us away from the experience's true nature of impermanence.





This impermanence of all experience is a vital factor in understanding the nature of our reality. Stepping back from each experience thus taking a stance of an Observer, we do not "pick up" the feelings inherent to them, instead these feelings remain with the experience and we do not suffer long term.





Daily interactions with others from this perspective of the Observer, coupled with a renunciation of "self" allows us to both Observe ourselves interacting thus as well as not taking any ill feelings with us from the exchange, in this manner, it is unnecessary to "walk a mile in their shoes" as it were in order to accept them, their point of view, (their perspective) and it makes it much easier to be humble and therefore be better at tolerance, forgiveness and inclusion of others as opposed to a selfish chase for points as it were during these exchanges.





Self renunciation and an Observer's stance makes it easier for others to get along with us rather than the other way around. In an exchange with others, why must we always win...Does this prove anything, or is it just a points chasing excercise...? Is Life thus reduced to a tennis match...? I think that it would be a trivial Life..Don't you...? I much prefer to shake hands at the end of an interchange rather than having to duck...





A Buddhist perspective....
Reply:live in the moment - this will teach you everything you need to learn
Reply:Perspective is personal like opinions and truth. Own yours but leave ample room to upgrade. Keep it simple and easy for others to adopt. Be the best example to follow and you will lead others too.
Reply:Perception is the same as everything else, arises due to causes and conditions, is changing and impermanent. How you react to those, IMO, is all we need to be really worried about. If we react w/ equanimity and virtuous intent the rest is rather moot.





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Reply:is nothing good or bad but rather thinking makes it so?





i think the first step is empathy. to understand why someone is feeling the way they do.
Reply:Hmmm.. complex question... first, i know nothing about art or science or shifting perspectives... so here we go.


Most of those things you mentioned are just sayings that help people get an idea of what you are trying to get across. I don't think literally walking in someones shoes or climbing a mountain will do anything ( unless of course it is the shoe or mountain that they are referring to). When you want to see someone Else's perspective, I don't think you will experience it exactly the same as they will. Everyone sees everything a little different. But there are things that feel or look the same to everyone. If you get splashed in the face with water, it will feel wet. If you splash someone else in the face with water, 99.9% chance that they will say it feels wet. So, just doing what the other person is doing will give you an idea as far as feeling and seeing of what they feel and see. but you will never know exactly how it feels or looks to them. I think mostly because of emotion and a persons personal likes and dislikes. One person might like getting splashed with water, while another might think its annoying. Anyways, I'm not too good at explaining things, so that's the best I can do.
Reply:Come Home!
Reply:At the root is the law of perfect love, We just learn who, how, what, why, where, which, and when to consider each and one can see from where they came and what is binding them.
Reply:My practice is to not look at other answers before answering, so others might already have said this: I recommend the Seth Material, Seth Speaks, The Nature of Personal Reality, by Jane Roberts.





In physical terms, one cannot see from another's perspective, because we cannot be in their skull, cannot stand precisely where they stand; but we can use our mind to go inside someone else's body, then theoretically see what they see, (or heal). Jane Roberts and her husband, Robert Butts did these things, and much more. You do not require physicality to do the things you mention...mind forms the physical. Yes, we can see as a plant sees, and feel as it feels...nothing exists apart; all is one. But "one" does not mean "limited".
Reply:We obtain another persons perspective when they share with us their experience and we genuinely listen and take in what they say. Within us we compare their experience with our own and find similarities and differences. The differences are the new perspective. Of course we cannot literally walk in another persons shoes, but we can utilize consideration.
Reply:My first response was "CD"???? lol! Don't worry, I won't blow your cover....





Shifting personal perspective, which the real CD actually does a wonderful job of assisting with, is to me, a matter of openness, and the ability to sleep.





I can't tell you how many times I went to bed with the intent to switch and woke up, slightly altered. I do accept the assistance of others, usually through their natural state of just being. The outcome of which isn't that I walked in their shoes and now see from their perspective, but that in subtle nuances I'm able to understand and grasp more of who they are and shifted myself in the process.


Thus, I am different. Walking in different shoes...





The crisis of identity is that often it isn't fluent. Make yourself that much and we see far beyond personal experience.








So, tea, glass of wine or a beer?
Reply:What is seen is a matter of awareness. Even the ability to see the perspective of another comes out of the willingness to see it within yourself.





As we grow in awareness, we continually broaden our context. This doesn't make our old thoughts or the views of others wrong, it's just a shift of perspective into a larger, and more fruitful, context.





There is a context in which love is experienced as need fulfillment, one in which it's seen as compassion or positive expression or an energy, others where it is seen as Sourced from within the self and is not limited in it's expression, and ultimately it is a communion of Self with Self in the creative expression of Life.
Reply:New information and experiences can expand or shift perspective. In fact in some sense we are constantly shifting perspective. However, that does not mean that some aspect of ones perspectives cannot at the same time remain constant especially if ones perspective is very open to begin with. Then the contexts may shift and change and hence effect perspective again! Everything is connected, cause and effect are at work all the time...time and timelessness, motion and stillness, perception and instight...illusion and delusion...being and being mindful. WOW! Life is amazing!





My grandfather taught me to be a critical thinker. I thank him for that! It is one aspect of the 'experience' , there are more though it is indeed important...to me!





Peace-hug!





Jamie








Is there a new group forming? I can see it now...The Cosmics...Sunman what are you doing? Shapeshifting now?





You guys.....giggles and smiles!
Reply:WOW, deep man!


I can only answer by saying that I don't believe we can ever truly see another point of view, as we are so biaised to our own points of view. We can have empathy with a person or situation, but can never know the full nuances of that situation, so can never truly appreciate it.


Even if we walk a mile in someone's shoes, we are doing it from our own perspective and our own experiences.


We are each the sum of our experiences, and can never be the sum of someone else's.


Hmm, thoughtful . . . . I need to have a lie down after that!
Reply:Well, thanks for the shift,


it was quite a jolt,


I am alive as you know,


in part, to this question! ~*~


Edit: One needs only know themselves and all will be known.


I saw her down by the river today,


crying tears into the dirty water.


Does it always have to be like this?


Is this the way it's going to stay?


I told her everything is OK.


And even though I didn't lie to her,


I know why she Cris. ~*~
Reply:COSMIC! my words come back to haunt me..... lol





I use this all the time... so here is my way with it. I don't think anyone can truly walk in the shoes of another - because as long as we are separate, each retains their own take, or perspective, on everything. Totally individual.





So, in my practice, I have been learning (((still growing!!!)))


to accept that I really have no idea of the travails and challenges that stand before, and have shaped this "other" before me.





Instead, I strive to develop compassion - this motivates allowance, acceptance, tolerance. Yes, I do employ mirroring - to use another's gestures, words, etc - this creates a sympathetic comfort zone on a subtle level. And yes, I am aware this is not "me", but a tool for greater connection possibilities. It works. The art of being present, of listening and "hearing" the other, is key.





There is so much that remains unspoken - if the heart is not open, it will remain unknown to us. People want to be known, to be really seen, and to be accepted. That is the tool to eventually giving that gift to the self. Self realization, self acceptance, self love. We have to start somewhere.





To pick up on another's feelings as one's own is an entirely other issue. That is described as empathy. To be a psychic empath can be very stressful, particularly if there has been no support to the child growing up with this. Most adults have shut this down if no one present in their lives knew how to guide them. Empaths need boundaries, need to learn discernment of what is them and what is the truth of another.





Shifting then, for me, is all about being open, available, and flexable. Who will come before me today? I have no way to know - so if I move within a state of ready watchfulness, I am aware, and can respond through that awareness (as opposed to react)


Reactions are conditionings, the old stuff, not in the present.





namaste !





edit: ok you, I am onto this one becoming one with now.


Well done!!! lmao
Reply:You can only shift your perspective into something that you believe is possible. I mean, maybe I could think like a mountain... but if I didn't believe that were possible, I wouldn't even try...





"Walk a mile in another man's shoes..." I think this IS necessary to really understand another's perspective. Life tends to give experiences from which we can empathise with others... if we allow those experiences to come. Usually empathy (the ability to see things from another's perspective) comes from having experienced hardship... whether it be the hardship of mental health issues, poverty, poor physical health, or the hardship of riches, fame, etc.





You can know when you're seeing from another person's perspective when you communicate effectively, using skills such as active listening and feedback. They will let you know if you are understanding them correctly.





Yes, we can "see" how a plant sees, or a chair.... my husband has done those things. He hasn't yet tried an atom.... and although he often communicates with God, I doubt he sees everything that God sees.





Still, each moment communicating with God does help to shift the perspective, little by little.





Peace and Love.
Reply:This question is definitely my cuo of tea, but I am in the middle of incendiarising a small herd of dead animals, so I will have to write in stits and f*rts, back soon.





OK, part II, I think I have used my IMAX theatre analogy here before, so bear with me if I am boring you. IMAX theatre big gigantic screen composed of a couple of thousand small 'pixel' type screens, creating a composite picture. You sit down, stuff your face with popcorn and blow your brain-synapses with saturating input, right ? OK, so far so good. Now, imagine instead of one big composite image it was really 2,000 ( + or - ) different images, you know that in your present configuration that you could not focus on all of them at once, maybe two or three, but that's about it for most of us. However, you also know that under hypnosis, later your brain could recall every single scene, because we all know that whatever sensory input passes the senses remains stored somewhere in our minds. So, the 'trick' is to be able to open the narrow focus of our inner vision, as if we only had the rods in our retinae, instead of the central cones which allow sharp focal vision, we would 'see' everything in general, and would, eventually be able to absorb all input simultaneously.





Now, moving right along. the next part of the trick of focus-shifting is to be able to pan 'out' to all that is going on in our greater Omniverse, and then zoom in on any particular view, such as CosmicShifter, or even CosmicDrifter, and I bet that before long there will be a CosmicSister, or two !





The rea; 'Tree of Life' is the extending branches of consciousness from First Thought, down all of the decision points to each tiny 'leaf' which we each represent, thus we are all eternally connected in a chain of consciousness, and thus we can go back up the branch until we reach the point of divergence from whoever we want to 'reach', and come back down their line, until we can, literally, put ourselves behind their 'camera' of perception.





It's the greatest fun you can have while still keeping your monkey suit on ! ;-)))



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